“We Make Fast Recovery and Pro-Level Performance After Surgery Possible for Every Body”

“Sometimes, Preventing Surgery Altogether. So, You Can Stop Worrying And Focus on A Fit and Healthy Future”

Watch this video to find out how Physio For Surgery gets better results - using advanced technology and 21st-century physiotherapy techniques that were previously only available to professional athletes.

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Who Is Running the Show?

You or your body?

Are injuries or chronic pain dictating what you can and can’t do?
Are you anxious about surgery or what happens afterwards?
Missing out? Frustrated about losing your independence?

Physio For Surgery Helps You Take Back Control, Reduce Pain, And Potentially Prevent Surgery Altogether. Introducing Concierge Style Physiotherapy

Concierge Style Physiotherapy: what we do and how we are different? Everyone says they are different, I know. But at Physio For Surgery we offer Concierge Style Physiotherapy, not seen anywhere else. What does this mean?

Hands On Treatment: loosening your muscles, getting rid of knots and moving tight joints for the duration of your appointment (not just 5 minutes of work and electricity)
Full 1 hour assessments and 30 minute follow ups with your registered therapist, no cutting any corners using assistants or kinesiologists
All inclusive pricing; you will never be charged more for acupuncture, use of equipment, or any machines - whatever it takes to get you better, we will do it, no extra charge to you!
Use machines After Your Treatment - we do hands-on work for the 30 minutes you are here and use any machines after that. We believe in you paying for our time, not how long you sit on machines.
State of the Art Equipment - We house the Antigravity treadmill, Gameready Med4Elite and Blood Flow Restriction Therapy previously only seen in professional sports facilities.
Voted the #1 Physiotherapy Clinic in Markham 2022 and 2023 by Readers Choice Awards
Voted the #1 Massage Therapy Clinic in Markham 2023 by Readers Choice Awards
Able To Communicate In: Cantonese, Mandarin, French and English
Evening and Weekend Access To Our Team. We don’t leave you hanging! Have a question on the evening or weekend? Reach out to Nick and he’ll get back to you outside of clinic hours!
Honesty + Networking To Find Solutions To Your Problems: if we can't fix what's wrong with you, through our extensive network our promise to you is “If we can’t fix it, we’ll find you the person who can!” There is no winning formula for either of us if we try to fix something we can’t. We want to fix you as fast as possible, so you can go and tell all of your friends about us. That's how we grow. It's not getting you to come in for endless visits, it's what has made us so successful.

Want Help Deciding if Physiotherapy is Right For You?

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We’re so confident about the level of service we provide – the best in the Greater Toronto Area. You don't have to part with a dollar until you're satisfied that we're the right therapists to get you out of pain. Help you sail through (or avoid) surgery and support you back to full fitness health.

So, you can book a complimentary 30-minute consultation with one of our physiotherapists to find out more about what we do and how we do it. So, again, there is zero obligation and absolutely no cost to you.

We can do it over the phone on a Telephone Consultation. Or, you can come into the clinic for a Discovery Visit; View our facilities and 21st-century equipment, grab a coffee and chat with us face to face.

Whichever you choose – remember, you can and will get better – fast, with our support. So complete the form now to request an appointment – where we’ll answer all your questions and put your mind at ease

Free Discovery Visit

Unsure about therapy or if we are the right fit for you? We are pleased to offer a free, 30-minute “Discovery Visit”. Think of this visit as a 30 minute “taster session” for you to come meet us, see our facilities, learn why Physio For Surgery is different from other clinics, and see if we may be a right fit for you.

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Talk to a Physio First

If you are overwhelmed or confused by advice you’ve received from friends, doctors, web articles, etc, this call is perfect for you! By scheduling a call-back with a Physio, we will help you make sense of it all. Let us know a bit more about your problems so we can help get you back to being healthy, active, and pain free.

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*Note: there is no treatment given at one of our discovery visits sessions. It’s for you to ask us more questions and for us to confirm whether or not we think we can help you.

Why Physio For Surgery Exists

Our story and why I opened the clinic:

I got into working with patients after my injuries derailed me from my hockey career. I took an interest in the human body when I took an exercise physiology (now called kinesiology) course in grade 12. After taking that course I was accepted into the number one Kinesiology program in Canada (at the time) at York University where I went on to study Kinesiology and Athletic Therapy. In my final year at York I was awarded Student Athletic Therapist of the year, finishing at the top of my class.

In my final 2 months at York University I was accepted into Massage Therapy school at Royal Canadian College of Massage Therapy where I received my degree in Massage Therapy. That same summer I wrote both of my national and provincial exams in Athletic Therapy and Massage Therapy. I passed both and received my official licenses to start treating patients! That same winter I was accepted into the prestigious McMaster contemporary medical acupuncture program where I received my acupuncture credentials.

I started working as an Athletic Therapist for a chronic pain clinic in Newmarket. I also was lucky enough to work with the Hamilton Tiger Cats. Both have been great opportunities but I knew I wanted to work in private patient care full time. I then started working for a Sports Medicine clinic in Markham and stayed there for 5 years. Through those 5 years I gained invaluable experience and will be forever grateful for it. I have worked with Canada Baseball, traveling internationally with them for various competitions, most recently world championships in Korea but had to put that on pause when I opened the clinic and had my first kid. Most recently I traveled and worked at the 2024 Paris Olympics to support an athlete during the games.

I opened Physio For Surgery to bring cutting edge technology to you, that was once available only to professional athletes. Physio For Surgery does not just say we are cutting edge or evidence based, we live and breathe it every day. From the Anti Gravity treadmill, to Game Ready Met 4 Elite and even Blood Flow Restriction, there is not one piece of technology missing to help our patients recover as fast as the pro’s.

My passion is to help others. I truly love to have great conversations with my patients and get to know their issues. I went so far as to open my own clinic strictly to give patients the best care they deserve. I will listen to my patients, explain injuries in words they can understand and ensure that before you leave my doors you have every question answered and feel fully confident that you are in the right place. Physio For Surgery offers free Wi-Fi and coffee and filtered water with every appointment and even snacks if you ask the right people!

In my free time I love to walk my dogs Valentino and Oli, play golf, watch football and experience life and explore the world with my wife and son. I am a sports fanatic who loves the human body and I have been fortunate enough to meet and now work with so many like minded people.

When I first opened the clinic everyone said staff is the hardest part, and I agree it is. But when you find the right people like I have in my staff, it makes every bit of hard work and the blood, sweat and tears you put into work worth it. They are all amazing people as well as practitioners. You will see what I mean when you come into my clinic. It's easy for me to say, but once you are here, you and your body will be very happy you came in!

At Physio For Surgery, we make pro-level treatment accessible to you, so you can achieve all of your goals safer and sooner.

So you can get back on your bike, play tennis with your girlfriends or just beat your buddy at Golf again after surgery (or without surgery at all).

You don't even have to be a famous sports star or Olympic athlete.

Anything is possible with the right team behind you.

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About Nicholas Halkidis

Company Owner and Clinic Owner

Nicholas Halkidis is the founder at Physio For Surgery.

Nick is an Athletic Therapist, Registered Massage Therapist and Certified Medical Acupuncturist. He has worked with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, Team Canada Rugby, and Team Canada Baseball’s Junior National Team.

Nick has extensive experience treating high-performance athletes with pioneering treatment techniques and state-of-the-art equipment through his work with Baseball Canada and other sporting teams. But after six years working in Sports Medicine, Nick decided to move into private patient care to bring those same techniques and high-tech rehabilitation equipment to the weekend warriors, amateur athletes, and self-confessed couch potatoes in the GTA – because that’s where he can make the most significant difference.

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What Our Clients Say About Physio For Surgery

Alex is a good physiotherapist who is interested in getting his patients to return to optimal health.

A T

17:39 29 Oct 24

Physio for Surgery was the very first place I called after having emergency knee surgery and I never looked back! About 3 minutes into my assessment with Nick, I knew I had found the best team of professionals to help me with my recovery. I dislocated my knee, tearing my ACL, PCL and LCL, and the severity of the injury made me believe I was never going to be the same again. Not only did I want someone experienced, but I needed someone I could trust to care for me when I was most vulnerable, and I got more than I could have asked for from Nick, Alex and Brandon. They took time to get to know me as a person and gave me reassurance, confidence, tough love and a lot of laughs. I truly believe my recovery would not have been so smooth without them and for that, I am forever grateful. There are so many positive things I can say but the one thing I can bet on is that you will always leave feeling better than when you walked in and to me, that’s a sign of excellent health care.Thank you guys for being the best! 🙂

Thurcya A.

21:02 17 Oct 24

I have had the pleasure of pain management services with Nick Halkidis (Pain/Athletic Therapist) and I can’t express how impressed I was with Nick and his staff deserving a special thank-you for the courteous, professional and efficient services rendered to me. Nick told me that surgery was not an option for me. The state of the art equipment; Anti Gravity Treadmill and the Game Ready Met was beyond my expectations including hands-on manipulation. Nick is honest and offers a free consultation.I will rate them 100 % +Excellent physiotherapy avoiding surgery.Yasmin Peter

Yasmin Leila

19:02 17 Oct 24

Onescripter

16:28 27 Sep 24

Nick and Brandon are very good at what they do. Highly recommended

Sanjay Rana

17:14 19 Sep 24

I've had lower back pain for a very long time to the point where I paid a visit to my family doctor about it and after x-rays show that I have a collapsed disc on left side of lower back and in neck area. He told me there was nothing I could do about it and just take advil to ease the pain. Well, for years I accepted this but it reached a point where my lower back just gives way every few months and I just couldn't move. My neck was also constantly sore. I could not sit for more than 1/2 hour without getting a sore neck and lower back. I was worried in lifting anything remotely heavy as I fear I will hurt my back. This is not living. Something had to be done, so I did a google search and found Nick from Physio for Surgery. I read the information on his website and he sounded like he could help me so I got in touch with him and explained my problem. Nick was very knowledgable and convinced me to come in and see Alex Chan, a physiotherapist who specializes in lower back and neck pain. This turned out to be one of the best decisions of my life. Alex read my report but I explained my issues in detail to him on my lower back and neck issues. He did an assessment on me and devised a plan suited for me by promptly showing me a set of exercises to start on for my lower back and neck. He continued to work with me on each session twice a week. He is so knowledgable and answered all my questions at each session. My lower back and neck continued to improve each week as Alex gave me the confidence to go back and do the things I enjoy like pickleball, tennis, biking, etc without worrying about hurting my back again. I worked hard on all the exercises he told me to do every day and the results are tremendous. I'm simply amazed, elated and so impressed with Alex. I highly recommend Alex if you have any back, neck or whatever bodily ailments you may have. Thank-you so much Alex, Nick and Catherine at the front desk. The staff is so friendly and professional.

Tony F.

16:10 19 Sep 24

I'm your stereotypical man who leaves ailments until they get better themselves but had a neck issue that was affecting sleep so was recommended Physio For Surgery and it's been a great experience.The staff are very professional and equally personable. Understanding that anything overly hassle creating I'd have probably stopped doing but the understanding and communication was just right and the flow of information in whatever format works for you makes it easy.Each element is explained in simple terms so there's no jargon or fluff. They get right to the challenge and use their skills to repair, rebuild and set you up for longevity for success.If there's something affecting your quality of life and you think they can help, go. It will be worth it.

David Ellis

22:38 17 Sep 24

Physio for Surgery is an excellent facility. The physiotherapists are highly skilled and very knowledgeable. I suffered an elbow injury playing competitive baseball and both Brandon and Nick helped me recover and get back to playing. They use many techniques and sports-injury tools that are highly effective. They are also really accommodating with appointments. I would definitely recommend Physio to Surgery if you’re looking to recover quickly and completely.

Wiliam Stewart

17:08 06 Sep 24

Alejandra Alvarez

19:30 05 Sep 24

Nick and his team provide the best level of care I know. They are very honest and optimistic with recoveries and I have seen great results seeing Nick!

JUSTIN PLANE

18:21 05 Sep 24

Nick is the best

Soccerbro1527

21:12 04 Sep 24

Nick and his team are extremely knowledgeable when dealing with injuries and I am very happy with the outcome after receiving treatment at Physio for Surgery. I’m a baseball pitcher and have dealt with shoulder and elbow pain for years. It got to a point where I wasn’t able to pitch anymore and it stayed that way for a long time. I’ve seen many physio therapist over the years and they all gave the same treatment which ended up not helping much. When I went to see Nick this past winter he seemed to have a great understanding for pitching injuries and the treatment methods he described were different from other physios i’ve seen in the past.After a few months of treatment my arm feels great and I’m now back to pitching at the age of 35 in a competitive baseball league. I no longer have should pain when throwing thanks to Nick. I highly recommend the Physio for Surgery team for sports injuries. Thanks again Nick!

Brian Woodhouse Art

03:22 04 Sep 24

Nick and his team are incredible. Was dealing with a work injury in my arm for months before I went to see him and wish I had gone sooner. Absolute pro, extremely knowledgeable and the facilities are incredibly equipped. If anything hurts, go see Nick!

Alessandro Lanzillotta

21:19 29 Aug 24

James Yantsis

17:51 29 Aug 24

I have been coming to physio for surgery for over 4 months and in that time they have helped me greatly addressing my osteoarthritis in both of my knees.Living in a basement apartment makes stairs difficult let alone walking but with the exercise portal and the sessions with Alex and Brandon it is much easier and I can see and feel the progress I have made.The reminders and confirmation for appointments is helpful as well.Everyone is very pleasant and easy to work with. I highly recommend them if you need help managing your pain.

Deborah Tonita

15:35 29 Aug 24

Great clinic for treatment

neophytos ioannou

12:17 29 Aug 24

I met Nick back when he was working at Apple Creek Sports Medicine Clinic. Although I was never treated by Nick himself there I would often watch and listen to how he dealt with his clients. He was very welcoming, knowledgeable and funny. I've recommended many family members to go see Nick especially my husband Paul who currently has ACL/MCL issues with both knees due to intense wear and tear from playing sports. We have followed Nick wherever he has relocated as we know exactly what we get from him- honesty, education/self-care about our injuries and lots and lots of jokes and laughs. We currently brought our 11-year old daughter Mia, who has extremely anxiety, in for her Osgood-Schlatter disease and she was able to trust and was comfortable with both Nick and Brandon providing her treatment. Nick and Brandon explained to Mia what exactly she is dealing with and how to prevent/maintain any flare ups including self care stretching routines, icing and to rest as she is like her mother and father super into sports/track and needs the reminder to take a break.I myself have been seeing Brandon for literally everything in the last 3-4 months. I am a walking, broken, hurting mess. I started seeing Brandon for my Big Toe joint pain that I've had the last 10+ years, lower stiff back pain, a severely irritated hamstring injury, heel spur/planter fasciitis, ankle sprain-to name a couple of things. Each time I see Brandon I feel better every time. Brandon had to tell me Mid May I would be out for my outdoor season due to my hamstring. I was frustrated. Brandon made me realize the importance of my all around health and that this will be more of a life long journey of healing past injuries and to try to give myself credit of taking the time now to feel better. Just hearing that made me be more self-compassionate. I was able to get back to soccer 2 weeks ago and the Hamstring is feeling good!I like how both Nick and Brandon make you feel like YOU are in the driver seat and they are just there for the ride and to help direct you when and if needed. I've seen Alex once and I was also impressed with how knowledgeable and funny he was.This is a great environment with professionals who truly care about their clients overall well-being. From respectful and polite administrators, clean and welcoming environment, this is the place to go to becoming and feeling like a better version of yourself!Thanks Nick, Brandon and the rest of the team for everything you do!!!From Paul, Mia and Irene Loughrey

Irene Molto

16:38 23 Aug 24

Physio for Surgery is fantastic! I injured my knee running and had on and off pain for over a year until I injured it badly. I saw Brandon and he used a wide array of techniques and equipment during therapy. I could hardly walk when I first saw him, and within 6 weeks I was running again! Now, several months later, I am running regularly with no pain at all. Brandon is an excellent physiotherapist with a vast knowledge of the human body and skills to fix it! He has also worked with my children to heal their sports related injuries. I highly recommend Physio for Surgery!

Maureen Stewart

22:41 22 Aug 24

Nick has been treating my daughter on and off now for a couple of years. She is an elite softball pitcher and wouldn't be able to do what she does without Nick. A few months ago, I hurt my neck. I wasn't able to work or go to the gym. I tried massage, chiro and acupuncture...nothing worked. Every day I was in tears. Then my daughter said to see Nick. She said "he's magic Mom, he can fix anything". Within 2 weeks I was feeling significantly better. Nick does appear to be a magician but he's also kind, funny and extremely knowledgeable.

Kim Nicholson-Aquanno

15:28 22 Aug 24

The staff at" Physio For Surgery" were very helpful and accommodating when I injured my knee. Chantal was very thorough during my assessment and understood my pain. This resulted in creating a detailed plan for my recovery. Chantal helped me get my strength back in my knee. Her knowledge and dedication is what made this happen. I also recommend having a massage. It helped me relax and deal with the pain. Thank you Physio For Surgery!

Sophia Khan

14:03 22 Aug 24

Alex Tsang

12:23 22 Aug 24

Both myself and my daughter have been here. Great results and would not hesitate to recommend Nick and his team. They get you back to your old self and help you get stronger so as to prevent injuries in the future.

J Schiralli

11:39 19 Aug 24

My husband has been a patient with Physio for Surgery since it opened. He recommended them to me to treat an issue I am dealing with. I would highly recommend them to family and friends

Diana Chai-Chong

19:48 16 Aug 24

Nick has helped me recover from a variety of injuries, particularly his treatment of my ankle injuries has enabled me to maintain an active, pain-free lifestyle. I have been treated by both Nick and Alex in the clinic, both of whom I would recommend to anyone.

Elias Boussoulas

14:11 13 Jun 24

Nice place nice people

Mollygonwon

12:18 06 Jun 24

Nick was literally the best physio I could ask for while rehabbing my knee post-ACL surgery 🙂 You will be in good hands with the combination of his knowledge and equipment (anti G treadmill, BFR & game ready). He was also able to correct other injuries I had that came up along the way (back pain & ankle pain) by providing me with exercise programs. He was one of the most important aspects of my rehab and I could not recommend him enough!

Evelyn

20:14 05 Jun 24

Physio For Surgery has a team of highly skilled and knowledgeable professionals. Staff and management are really friendly and the clinic has a super positive vibe which makes your experience smooth. I can definitely attest that I saw gradual improvement in my condition over the course of my treatment until I was back to normal. I highly recommend this place to anyone who is looking for results.

fariba gohari

01:14 03 Jun 24

I am grateful for the exceptional care I received from Nick/Brandon at Physio For Surgery. From my first chat, they demonstrated genuine care, expertise, and professionalism.The personalized treatment plan have improved the pain for both of my elbows through each session, however; I have decided to try a different therapeutic method in order to further treat my pain, which has nothing to do with the service that was provided at Physio For Surgery.The clinic is welcoming, and the staff is friendly and efficient. I highly recommend Physio For Surgery for their dedication and outstanding care.Nick, Brandon and Team will be my go to if I ever need any kind of physio treatment for pain management, thank you all!Eddie

Eddie L

19:14 30 May 24

Brandon is confident , knowledgeable and always have a solution to address one’s issue / concern. Excellent service in this category.

Priscilla Pang

15:58 30 May 24

Kimiko Leanne Maikawa

13:02 30 May 24

Lalit Gupta

12:14 30 May 24

I seperated my shoulder and was referred to Nick by another athetlic. He did not disapoint and went the extra mile to get me back on the ice as soon as possible. The treatments were awesome, and they have some very cool equipment that they would use on my shoulder after the session.I highly recommend this clinic!! Great team here!!

Adam Brown

13:43 24 May 24

Sam Vig

13:20 23 May 24

If you are an athlete or live an active life style, you would need to know a good physio closeby.. sports injuries are par for the course. physio for surgery’s contact should be saved in your phone. Nick is absolutely a great guy ! He is very knowledgeable, honest and would set the expectations right! He wouldn’t sugar coat things and would tell you what to expect during the process. He is competed, kind and very approachable! Give him a shout & u would not be disappointed!

Farheen imtiaz

04:23 22 May 24

I had plateaued in my recovery from a back injury and decided to try out this clinic. My physiotherapist, Alex has helped me better understand my issue and the road to recovery. It was a mindset shift but he was patient and informative and has gone above and beyond to find ways to help me. I am feeling better overall and I’m able to move better; however, the fact that I am no longer afraid to move my body and I’m now hopeful that I’ll be able to live life more fully again is invaluable. I feel empowered and that’s a gift. The staff are all very friendly and professional, there’s plenty of parking, and the clinic is easy to get to. Highly recommend!

Mary Malek

16:07 17 May 24

Nick treats our entire family, my sons are athletes and when injured they are able to get back to competitive sports fast. From concussion treatment to osgood schlatter knees to sprains. I was so impressed with the concussion knowledge and treatment for my eldest who I thought due to the extent of the injury that he was going to be out for months was back within weeks. On top of it he’s a cool guy.

Melanie Jay Janmohamed

21:38 16 May 24

Great experience, my knee was completely back to normal after just a few sessions !

Christian Santos

15:13 16 May 24

Extremely pleased with their work. Nick and Alex were very attentive to my 11yo's injury from overworking one leg more than the other from playing rep hockey. Alex was very patient with my son and was able to get a lot more out of his mouth than I could. We went through with the recovery program that they have designed and before you know it my son's now feeling better and stronger than before.

Ronny Pau

18:41 30 Apr 24

I highly recommend Physio for Surgery for your next physiotherapy visit! What a professional and welcoming environment. Alex Chan is very knowledgeable and provided me with the necessary rehab, paired with a variety of daily exercises to nurse my shoulder back to health earlier than anticipated.

Alex Newman

12:21 17 Apr 24

Brandon is a fantastic physiotherapist! Very knowledgeable and great at explaining the underlying cause of my injury. His treatments were very effective, and he cleared my foot pain only after a few visits. Thank you Brandon! I'll be back for the next injury.

Jessica

02:32 26 Mar 24

The day of my knee injury I could barely stand up on my own. I was able to come here the same day. Everyone at the clinic has been so friendly and helpful. Brandon has been great. He was able to help me get walking with the use of crutches on the first appointment. I know my injury may take time to heal. Brandon has helped me regain my independence as I continue to recover from my injury.

Jillian Chang

14:01 14 Feb 24

I attended Physio For Surgery to rehab my grade 2 MCL tear. Nick and his team were awesome in aiding my recovery. Extremely friendly and profession. I was able to get back to sports in a few short weeks. Highly recommend Physio For Surgery for any athletic therapy or physiotherapy.

Anth Luch

13:46 13 Feb 24

Fantastic service by knowledgeable, professional staff. Nick himself has extensive experience with many national team athletes, and is able to quickly diagnose and fix problems through another body area inexperienced people wouldn't think of connecting. Alex is also fantastic, professional, and dedicated, always providing consistently high service

Mark Huang

19:50 08 Feb 24

I had a great experience in this Clinic after my knee surgery. Nick, Brandon and Alexi has been awesome. Thank you everyone !

Jawed Afandi

18:56 08 Feb 24

Josephine Karpouzis

02:50 31 Jan 24

Wonderful experience!A warm welcoming when you enter, followed by exceptional service from the staff. I highly recommend this place, that’s why we keep coming back! Keep up the amazing work❤️

Christina Thomaidis

13:04 30 Jan 24

Nick and his team are by far the most professional therapists I have ever delt with from fixing minor problems to extreme problems they are the go to people

brad gay

15:29 25 Jan 24

Morgan Petrov

01:01 24 Jan 24

My treatment experience with Physio for Surgery has been very efficient and effective. The booking and follow-up by Alexis is top-notch and very personable. Nick is punctual, very decisive and clear with his diagnosis. His treatments have been very effective for my elbow and knee issues and his treatment equipment looks state-of-the art. Thanks team!

John Wieser

00:39 24 Jan 24

I enjoy my visits with Branden. Very professional and helpful which added to my speed y recovery. Thank you

Rose Tunzi

20:24 23 Jan 24

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Kirsten

In her 40's, Markham

“After my hip surgery I started seeing Nick. I use his treadmill, which has been amazing because it can reduce the weight that I'm putting on my hips. I can learn to walk properly again, because I haven't walked pain-free in over two years. So that's been a great experience.”

Mark

In his 20's, Markham

“I tore my Achilles tendon over the course of the summer playing soccer. The biggest impact I noticed personally was hopping on the antigravity treadmill. This clinic is probably one of the most thorough. I feel like the results from here are top-notch and I feel like it's the best”

Anna

In her 30's, Toronto

“When I met with my surgeon to remove my cast the surgeon remarked to me that he felt my recovery process was further along than he thought I should be. It can be attributed to Nick and the work that we're doing here.”